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Is the 2022 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 a Global-B architecture vehicle?

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I'm going to create a bench setup for Global-B architecture modules for experiments and hacking, and I will be buying some modules.

Does anyone know if the 2022 Chevy Silverado 2500 a Global-B architecture vehicle?

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  • 2022 Silverado 2500 is not Global B. Silverado 1500 on the other hand is.

  • Thanks. I want to start figuring out how to change VIN and PIN in global-B modules, I need to have a working bench setup as a remote connection won't be the best way.  

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Its Global B,, All Modules Data Use Serial Data Gateway Module....


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6 hours ago, LLCasaol said:

Its Global B,, All Modules Data Use Serial Data Gateway Module....


Thanks for that info. So the serial data module is only used in Global-B vehicles? 

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Yes Troy as i offer you before also, you can connect (teamviewer) with me to any GM truck 2015-2022 to do whatever you want to. 

Okay today i will pull some files from 2022 tahoe and send you


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8 minutes ago, Last Captain said:

Yes Troy as i offer you before also, you can connect (teamviewer) with me to any GM truck 2015-2022 to do whatever you want to. 

Okay today i will pull some files from 2022 tahoe and send you

 

Thanks. I want to start figuring out how to change VIN and PIN in global-B modules, I need to have a working bench setup as a remote connection won't be the best way.

 

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2 hours ago, Last Captain said:

Yes Troy as i offer you before also, you can connect (teamviewer) with me to any GM truck 2015-2022 to do whatever you want to. 

Okay today i will pull some files from 2022 tahoe and send you

You are not correct. Latest Global A vehicles have SGM too. Please check Cadillac XT6 for example

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2022 Silverado 2500 is not Global B. Silverado 1500 on the other hand is.

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2 hours ago, Galaxie said:

2022 Silverado 2500 is not Global B. Silverado 1500 on the other hand is.


Cool thanks for that info. Yeah I was told that 2022 Silverado is Global-A 5 byte seed. 

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On 15/2/2023 at 15:41, Galaxie said:

2022 Silverado 2500 no es Global B. Silverado 1500, por otro lado, sí lo es.

I am working on a 2022 GMC SIERRA 1500, the PCM is an E90 and it is GLOBAL B.

SEED 31 byte and KEY 12 byte

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Let me clear confusion here, its not technically answer but it clears confusion, 

 

SDGM with 2 connectors is Global-A

 

SDGM with 3 connectors is Global-B

 


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There's actually another one too...  The 2020 GMC shows a Gen 3 (not sure if there's even more!). Long story short but I've found out doing a different project.  Anyways, I got one from a 2019 Spark 1.4L which I believe is a Gen 2 and it only had two connectors but WAY more wires (more links to different busses) and doesn't quite operate the same.  It also wanted an MDI 2 (I only have a 1).  Anyways, I ended up buying one from a 2016 after which was a Gen 1 for what I need :).  I can pull the diagrams up for them as well if needed.  I tried using the Gen 3 but I was wasting too much time so threw it aside :).

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Sometimes for diagnostic purpose I use MDI 1 with Global B (sometimes too lazy to go for MDI2). MDI 1 can't work with Ethernet bus only. For programming Global B I use MDI 2 only.

GM models using the VIP architecture include (Global B):

 

Buick

  • 2021-2023 Envision

 

Cadillac

  • 2023 LYRIQ
  • 2021-2023 Escalade
  • 2020-2023 CT4
  • 2020-2023 CT5

 

Chevrolet

  • 2023 Colorado
  • 2022-2023 Silverado 1500
  • 2021-2023 Tahoe and Suburban
  • 2020-2023 Corvette

 

GMC

  • 2023 Canyon
  • 2022-2023 HUMMER EV
  • 2022-2023 Sierra 1500
  • 2021-2023 Yukon

The timelines below for HS CAN Bus used on GM vehicles.

 

HS GMLAN … – Non SDGM - GMLANs accessible at the DLC

HS GMLAN … – Gen 1 SDGM – Infotainment isolation only, primary network testing still available at the DLC.

Gen 2 SDGMs – Not installed in any production GM vehicles.

HS GMLAN 2018 – Current Global “A” – Gen 3 SDGM - Complete network isolation.

CAN & CAN FD - VIP ( Global “B” vehicles) Select 2019 to 2022 models – VIP SDGM - Complete network isolation.

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The Astra K, Insignia B and others GM cars have a K56 module but they are global A like this :Picture 1 of 1

 

But only isolates a little part of the can bus low speed.

As i saw, the K56 in global B it's totally different. the DLC connector goes to this module, and from this modules, communicates with the rest of the can bus lines

 

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On 24/2/2023 at 8:57, Arbe_gtc said:

Los Astra K, Insignia B y otros autos de GM tienen un módulo K56 pero son A globales así :Imagen 1 de 1

 

Pero solo aísla una pequeña parte del can bus de baja velocidad.

Como vi, el K56 en global B es totalmente diferente. el conector DLC va a este modulo, y desde este modulo se comunica con el resto de lineas can bus

 

can someone confirm if this is the gateway on a global platform B?

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Bro are you sure you are sharing gateway module picture? 


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This is Steering Column Tilt Wheel and Telescope Control Module. 

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Send vin to confirm 


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Do you guys know if this gateway module is required to read global b modules on the bench? Can you not select the w/o gateway option in dps to read any global b module directly? 

I dont understand it's purpose, is it for managing too much information on the bus? 

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From reading the GM docs, it seems all the modules communicate through the serial data gateway module. I also saw a reference for "service mode". Maybe the gateway module sends some commands to activate service mode for programming. I have one of these global-B 3-port gateway module on the way coming. I'll find out more when it arrives.

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